tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post6049982334138386214..comments2023-11-05T05:56:59.725-05:00Comments on Mrs. Furious ... Recipes, Rants & Reality: Step One Towards ChangeMrs Furioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-79698453640400488112009-11-19T16:38:31.201-05:002009-11-19T16:38:31.201-05:001. Kind of glad I didn't pursue Social Work i...1. Kind of glad I didn't pursue Social Work in college now that I see what you're going through.<br />2. I love school... You're making me want to go back which puts a crimp in the financials.<br />3. What about being a professor? For you? Could you teach? Would you want to?<br />4. You're Superwoman, I can't believe how uber productive you were!!Kikihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03206946600984174783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-82924179406382402802009-11-19T09:20:58.738-05:002009-11-19T09:20:58.738-05:00gooddog,
" I busted those babies out online i...gooddog,<br />"<i> I busted those babies out online in 3 weeks. </i>"<br />Wow! That is impressive!<br /><br />Katieo,<br />"<i>Especially after Christmas during the dreaded Janufebs.</i>"<br />Good point... that makes me think it won't be so bad.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-76011867350550811792009-11-19T06:37:21.639-05:002009-11-19T06:37:21.639-05:00Hmmm. this is sounding eeeerily familiar.
Jan 200...Hmmm. this is sounding eeeerily familiar.<br /><br />Jan 2009 i realized that I had 100 CEUs to do by the end of the month to keep up my counseling accreditation. I had 5 years to do them but hey, kids, no work, etc had all happened.<br /><br />I busted those babies out online in 3 weeks. For real. I looked on all kinds of sites for the best deals on each class. Like you, I actually loved learning all that new stuff! It had been years. <br /><br />I think I was the only person in the history of the NBCC to show up on their doorstep (because they're headquartered in greensboro for some odd reason) and hang in my CEUs in person, with a toddler on my hip!<br /><br />Enjoy the learning!gooddoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05491256236858582306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-4478018418055403642009-11-18T23:24:26.835-05:002009-11-18T23:24:26.835-05:00Good for you! Step One sounds awesome. A little ov...Good for you! Step One sounds awesome. A little overwhelming maybe...but good. sooo smart to be prepared.<br /><br />and honestly? You did two credits in one day? 43 more seems stressful and taxing...but doable, right? Especially after Christmas during the dreaded Janufebs. You can do it!!katieohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08339475353059389950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-90042339132791247932009-11-18T20:21:10.427-05:002009-11-18T20:21:10.427-05:00Amy,
Oh you are so sweet. I will send you a Chris...Amy,<br />Oh you are so sweet. I will send you a Christmas box this year! You deserve it after giving me the caramel corn recipe!<br />I'm not planning to go back to work now... but I need to make sure my license doesn't lapse... and if things don't pan out on certain fronts it's possible I might go back to work (that would be with Mr F working freelance from home). Either way I do feel I need to be prepared.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-62238102923510798982009-11-18T18:58:26.041-05:002009-11-18T18:58:26.041-05:00Well so I probably missed it but are you planning ...Well so I probably missed it but are you planning to go back to work part-time or are you just making sure that your license is active? I hope it's the latter. I'm in the same boat as you except I have 36 CEU's due every 3 years and like you, since I have no full time employer, the burden of paying for those CEU's, in whatever form, falls on me. Fortunately the occupational therapy association can be fairly liberal in what they will consider for CEU's or else I'd be totally screwed. Also, the director over that particular division of the association is one of my former professors...and that has come in handy :) I wish you luck in pulling together that many credits in such a short amount of time but hey, you're able to work miracles right? You blog about them all the time. And if you've forgotten, please just go back and look at your Christmas boxes you made last year for gifts. I'm still telling people about those.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15167781724086312806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-46224753421903318732009-11-18T18:29:18.628-05:002009-11-18T18:29:18.628-05:00Access is right. I live in Iosco County and there ...Access is right. I live in Iosco County and there is not one clincal practice that takes private patients. Not one.lucindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04822372324731632309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-72427650042175441612009-11-18T17:04:05.268-05:002009-11-18T17:04:05.268-05:00Fuck Michigan! We're staying in North Carolina...Fuck Michigan! We're staying in North Carolina!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />[kidding]Mr Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-57537094621627027682009-11-18T16:17:57.552-05:002009-11-18T16:17:57.552-05:00And I don't know about the PhD license for pra...And I don't know about the PhD license for practice but in MI you need two years of clinical supervision AFTER the MSW to get licensed. So that is a minimum of 4 years of clinical experience. And in NY I had to take a crazy ass psychotic test to get my clinical license (think LSAT for social workers).<br /><br />Goddamn it! I'm all fired up now!Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-15949774533664439232009-11-18T16:10:55.884-05:002009-11-18T16:10:55.884-05:00Smitty,
"In my mind, no."
Especially in...Smitty,<br />"<i>In my mind, no.</i>"<br /><br />Especially in a clinical setting where you are talking about a 2 year difference in education between a LMSW and a PhD... BUT... that is made up for in the 2 years of unpaid clinical interships the MSWs have over the PhD. A PsyD only has 1 year of clinical. And if you are hardcore like me and have a BSW & a MSW you have 3 years of clinical interships. So I call that a wash it is the same amount of education just one is achieved on site and one is achieved on campus.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-7676016473442746602009-11-18T15:59:36.143-05:002009-11-18T15:59:36.143-05:00if you have the $$$ you can pull the strings and t...<i>if you have the $$$ you can pull the strings and take care of your own in D.C. (or Lansing...)</i><br /><br />So true. What it comes down to, in my mind, is fear of mis-investing in your own future. Psychiatrists have the ultimate trump card: they can write scrips. Nobody else can, because they are MDs. Fine. So why, then, do they even engage in these arguments??<br /><br />Psychologists are different. They are facing the fact that LMSWs and LPCs are as qualified to diagnose, have practice acts (the laws that create their licensure) that allow for diagnosis and treatment, LMSWs and LPCs log more clinical hours...but Psychologists spent all that extra time getting their Doctorate. Well, if I invested that much in my education, I should get something for it, right?<br /><br />In my mind, no. In MI, every county...all 83...have at least one LMSW and at least 1 LPC. The same can not be said of psychologists. This is an <i>access to mental health issue</i>. So, good for you for taking the extra ed, but don't sit on your high horse in Oakland fucking county bitching about LMSWs taking practice, when these folks are practicing in Antrim or Gogebic where there is little no no access to service.Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-59110308549399739562009-11-18T15:44:30.286-05:002009-11-18T15:44:30.286-05:00Me, Only Better,
3.8 with 3 kids is more than not ...Me, Only Better,<br />3.8 with 3 kids is more than not bad. I had no kids, no job, no outside stress.<br /><br />pay wise it really depends on the job... it can be mid to high 20s (yes believe it) to 60K. <br /><br />I'm actually planning to go back to school and get my RN. It will take me 2 years and after that I can make much more money with much greater time flexibility as a nurse than I can as a social worker.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-3480062278671939762009-11-18T15:38:10.630-05:002009-11-18T15:38:10.630-05:00I find this all quite interesting. I am completin...I find this all quite interesting. I am completing my BSW right now, and applying for my MSW. <br /><br />In Canada, no one in the SW field makes tons of money, but certainly a MSW puts you more into the 45-50K range depending on where you work.<br /><br />Still, I sometimes wish I had choosen a profession with better pay and less stress.<br /><br />I am not a 4.0 student, but I am a 3.8 student (and with three kids I think it's not bad!)<br /><br />Maybe I will get 4.0 in my MSW!Kinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18335702302039163801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-75276682102761118062009-11-18T15:26:38.379-05:002009-11-18T15:26:38.379-05:00Staci,
It is full on crazy
Mr F,
"LMSWs mak...Staci,<br />It is full on crazy<br /><br /><br />Mr F,<br />"<i>LMSWs make what, $30K a year? PhDs make up to ten times that amount?</i>"<br />in Michigan at least. In NY I actually had a shot of having a decent private practice or being the head of an agency. NY is very pro social worker as mental health professional in a clinical setting. The universities in MI with social work schools are not clinical programs. NYU is the last clinical social work school. In MI I was offered that job as "Director of Social Work" running the entire mental health dept of a nursing home facility and it paid $32K. <br />I don't know about states other than in NY... but in NY it was understood that an MSW was not a <i>lesser</i> degree than a PhD in a clinical mental health setting... it was a <i>different</i> degree. This shit really pisses me off. In the ed alliance clinic the PhDs testing, the MSWs did diagnosis and treatment. The clinics were entirely staffed by social workers. We signed off on our own damn work.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-58365164497325136052009-11-18T15:13:52.252-05:002009-11-18T15:13:52.252-05:00It has to do with proving LMSW's equality to P...<i>It has to do with proving LMSW's equality to PhD-level Psychologists/Psychiatrists. Scope of Practice issues are HUGE battles, as the more advanced-degree folks are continually worrried about Masters-level folks like LPCs and LMSWs "creeping-in" on their scope of practice.</i><br /><br />That's bullshit. <br /><br />LMSWs make what, $30K a year? PhDs make up to ten times that amount? And it's the LMSWs that are forced to bear the cost burden of continuing ed? Like everything else in this country, if you have the $$$ you can pull the strings and take care of your own in D.C. (or Lansing...)Mr Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-297180787664231942009-11-18T14:51:37.097-05:002009-11-18T14:51:37.097-05:00Smitty,
thanks for checking
unfortunately I am at...Smitty,<br />thanks for checking<br /><br />unfortunately I am at the end of my 3 year license so I'll have to clock in those credits now. If we had been in MI it would have been easier to do the seminars but still expensive. And I still think those requirements are a screw job. <br /><br />awesome news about the billing. I really felt like I had pretty much kissed my career plans and training goodbye when we moved to MI.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-75911545375499993132009-11-18T14:44:13.935-05:002009-11-18T14:44:13.935-05:00Mrs. F:
The NASW-Michigan recently approved a dea...Mrs. F:<br /><br />The NASW-Michigan recently approved a deal with Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, which covers 70% of MI's insured population, for LMSWs to bill BCBSM directly for services, including diagnosis and treatment.<br /><br />As for the 45 hours, I talked to the NASW's executive director in MI. She says:<br /><br />Social workers have to get 45 CEs every three years, so it averages only 15 CEs a year – all of which they can get by attending our 2-day annual conference every year. Additionally, they can get 12 CEs if they attend LEAD every year for three years.Noahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345059376742159966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-57634469504025958352009-11-18T14:19:08.307-05:002009-11-18T14:19:08.307-05:00In Michigan psychologist have to do... NO continui...In Michigan psychologist have to do... NO continuing education.<br /><br /><br />That is crap. Even personal trainers have to do continuing ed to keep their certs. <br /><br />Crazy how this whole world works. <br /><br /><br /><br />Excited to read about the changes the Furious Family is making. <br /><br />Have a FUN Disney vaca!STACIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736266151790965347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-44827516316713445342009-11-18T13:15:23.460-05:002009-11-18T13:15:23.460-05:00Preppy Mama,
No. There is a grace period for rene...Preppy Mama,<br />No. There is a grace period for renewal. And you just sign a waiver stating that you aren't working with kids. You just owe the money! Which reminds me I need to update NY with my new address so they can hound me for it ;)Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-37166064825249342842009-11-18T13:11:37.820-05:002009-11-18T13:11:37.820-05:00trifitmom,
Oh I was FURIOUS. I believe I said &qu...trifitmom,<br />Oh I was FURIOUS. I believe I said "FUCK IT!!!" <br />Now I've been dying to know... how do you feel about walking away from the old blog?!! <br /><br />Andrea,<br />lately, since babysitting this Fall, I am operating on a whole other level. It's crazy how much more stuff I do than I did before. I am exhausted though... and sometimes I just feel like it all isn't worth the effort.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-20516903951517179392009-11-18T13:11:17.656-05:002009-11-18T13:11:17.656-05:00Oh I am dreading mine. I had until last week to se...Oh I am dreading mine. I had until last week to send in my license renewal...crap I forgot. Do they penalize you if you are not working? I'm in NY.Preppy Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376529270725759004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-70230397123314470262009-11-18T12:44:50.441-05:002009-11-18T12:44:50.441-05:00Also worth noting...
In Michigan psychologist hav...Also worth noting...<br /><br />In Michigan psychologist have to do... NO continuing education.Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-59615323224103938492009-11-18T12:30:53.167-05:002009-11-18T12:30:53.167-05:00way to go Mrs.F you are my hero now my yesterday s...way to go Mrs.F you are my hero now my yesterday seems measly today is a new day!Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06847721520965081711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-12681389170475851812009-11-18T12:24:33.698-05:002009-11-18T12:24:33.698-05:00holy cow i feel productive just reading the post !...holy cow i feel productive just reading the post !! that would have made me FURIOUS if i wound up paying for after care and not making money. i would not have let go of that one......justmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081885076553861768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3970661341243634764.post-28031865342598815972009-11-18T12:12:06.897-05:002009-11-18T12:12:06.897-05:00Carrie,
That is the only upside to the situation.....Carrie,<br />That is the only upside to the situation... I actually loved reading the course work and taking the test. And since it's a distance learning program I can choose whatever topics I want instead of attending whatever classes happen to be running at the right time. I can take 45 random classes. Tourette Syndrome?!! Meth abuse?! Bring that shit on!Mrs Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18082932653215907248noreply@blogger.com