Sunday, April 27, 2008
Earth Day Snafu... Updated For Your Enjoyment
I'm back with more:
With all the hubbub this year surrounding "Earth Day" and all the "Earth Week" shows and promotions that fact that Tuesday was in fact "Earth Day" kind of came and went unnoticed. Thank God I have Oprah on Tivo or I might have missed it all together.
Oprah actually had a pretty good informative show on. If you missed it you can catch up at her SITE. They did a really good job of explaining the importance of Organic food in your efforts to go Green. And they reminded me of something I keep forgetting to pass along... the importance of skincare. Did you know that everything you put on your skin is absorbed into your body? Ever noticed all those long unpronounceable words on the back of your lotions and shampoo? My video cuts out just as I was getting to the good stuff (of course) but they did a great job of breaking it down for you on the Oprah show... you can read it HERE. Skin care is still a relatively new area of change for us. We've gotten the kids' products switched over but there are a few things we're still set in our ways about and a bevy of products left to use up.
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I definently want to hear more, Ive always used johnsons stuff for baby and would love to make the switch for our little ones first great great info. also I know you once talked about household cleaners(saying so long to my clorox products) and mentioned the method brand what products do you use and how do they work? Enjoy the Zoo.
Andrea,
For the little ones we've used both Avalon Baby Organics (the whole line) and California Baby... both are tear free etc. And they both have worked great.
I just saw at Target that Method has a Baby line too now. I will say at first there can be a little sticker shock on these things but really they last a long time and who better to spend the money on :)
Cleaning products:
I have liked all the Method cleaners and they have all worked well. I especially like the wood cleaner & the floor cleaner.
We use Ecover brand dishwasher detergent and it works better than any cleaner we've ever used!
Clorox also has their own green line of cleaners.. though I haven't tried them yet.
We've been using Bon Ami (like Ajax) as a scrub for the tub & sinks and it works great, is super cheap, and is eco-friendly.
A lot of people use "Simply Green" a solution you can use in different strengths to clean everything.
And toons of people wrote in that they just use baking soda & vinegar to clean things. I always feel oddly intimidated by that and just want a bottle of cleaner! Baby steps...
The key thing to look for is that they are "biodegradable". Their are no real labeling standards.
Ah the zoo... it always sounds like a good idea.... but that hour long drive home is killer! That and Kid spiked a 103 fever while we were there out of nowhere (refused to eat & had to be pushed the whole way.... ugh)... sorry for the germs Toledo ;)
I guessing you probably already know about this, but if you don't.
Here's a good resource to start finding out what you want to know. you can search by ingredient or by product name.
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/
Eli had a horrible allergic reaction to the california baby hypoallergenic baby wash.
So we are on patrol for something else.
Nutmeg,
I have been there tonight but it is taking me too long!
I wish I could just get a list of the absolute terrible toxic stuff to avoid.
Have you tried the Avalon Baby stuff?
Kid & Baby have been good w/ California Baby and it was the only sunscreen that didn't give Kid eczema back in the day. Ugh that is tough.
So far in my research it appears that Johnson's baby shampoo isn't terrible. (but I'm not 100% confident in that)
I just bought the book Easy Green Living by Renee Loux, she's the host of Fine Living's It's Easy Being Green. GREAT BOOK! It has all the answers to the questions you were wondering. Lists of what to avoid in cosmetics, household cleansers, etc. Also has a "green thumb guide" that lists brands, products, sources, etc. for everything imaginable, ie. toilet paper, makeup, candles, sheets, EVERYTHING! She also gives recipes for house cleansers, room sprays, body mists, scrubs, face masques. Its really an awesome book. I also bought Gorgeously Green by Sophie Uliano(the woman who was on Oprah) and while its ok and has good info, Renee Loux's book is fantastic. Check out her website, www.reneeloux.com
Just found this on her website, think it might help you decipher the ingredients:
caution!
petroleum based
skin products
Petroleum-based products are made from the same fossil fuel that runs our cars and makes plastic. Petroleum cannot be absorbed by the body- like a thin layer of plastic it seals the skin’s ability to breathe and renew itself.
Unfortunately, these ingredients sneak in everywhere (soap, lotion, cleansers), even products that appear on health-food store shelves with labels that advertise organic ingredients (boo-hiss). For supple, healthy skin- avoid products with petroleum derived ingredients. Look at labels. Common petroleum ingredients to look out for:
Parabens:
• Methylparaben
• Propylparaben
Lauryl Sulfates and Larureth Sulfates:
• Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS)
• Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate
• Sodium Laureth Sulfate (SLE)
• Propylene Glycol
• Lauramide DEA
Mrs. F., So a sick Kid and the Zoo huh??? Poor thing.... Is she doing better now???
My nephew has this weird gag/throw up thing when we put lotion on him,, the smell bugs him and if he works himself up...well its not good. We have been using the spray because that doesn't seem to bug him as much, does CA Baby make it in that style???
I get hives if I change my laundry detergent, I can only use Aveeno and Eucerin products on my skin...smelly stuff is usually out!!! Otherwise I have to hook up to an i.v drip of Benadryl until the hives subdue!!!
As far as sunscreen, I'll be interested in what you say, I had (as most people have) a spot removed several years ago and have been more vigilant about applying the sunscreen. I'll post soon about the product I recommend to the tourists who come in looking like lobsters.
Meri,
Thank you!!
I've just spent (literally) the last 3 hours looking up ingredients and products. I'm exhausted!!
I'm getting the book tomorrow.
And I'm glad you reviewed both books by the way I would have been curious about her book.
I really appreciate your extra research :)
Kiki,
The CB has a stick form of sunscreen (you can get it no fragrance) that actually got the highest possible rating... maybe that would work.
Go HERE and you can scroll down or type in the brand they use. 0 is the best score 10 is the worst.
Also here's a link for the Sunguard. I've used it in our clothes and there is no fragrance and it doesn't effect the texture of the fabrics at all.
I'll check those out for sure!!! Thanks for the great info, for keeping us all informed and doing it in a fun way!!! I always know I'm getting the best information from you, and I appreciate how hard you work to give us quality posts!!!
What??? You're supposed to put sunscreen on your clothes? Good gravy, we're all gonna die of skin cancer. Could you elaborate on the sunguard? Are you saying that UV rays penetrate your clothes? Help!
Reesa,
Well yes they do. What type of clothing and what color makes a difference. Honestly I've never burned through my clothes. But with the kids out playing for hours it just gave me a huge amount of piece of mind to know that the skin under their clothes was completely protected. I had bought a pricey coverup UPF shirt for Kid then I found the Sunguard and was kicking myself.
This info is taken from Skincancer.org:
Which Fabrics are Best?
As a rule, light-colored, lightweight and loosely-woven fabrics do not offer much protection from the sun. That white T-shirt you slip on at the beach when you feel your skin burning provides only moderate protection from sunburn, with an average ultraviolet protection factor (UPF) of 7. At the other end of the spectrum, a long-sleeved dark denim shirt offers an estimated UPF of 1,700 – which amounts to a complete sun block. In general, clothing made of tightly-woven fabric best protects skin from the sun. The easiest way to test if a fabric can protect your skin is to hold it up to the light. If you can see through it, then UV radiation can penetrate it – and your skin.
The color of the fabric also plays a role. Darker-colored fabrics are more effective than lighter at blocking out the sun. For instance, the UPF of a green cotton T-shirt is 10 versus 7 for white cotton, and a thicker fabric such as velvet in black, blue or dark green has an approximate UPF of 50.
Fabric Content and the Wearer's Activity Make a Difference
What the clothing is made of matters. Fabrics such as unbleached cotton contain special pigments called lignins that act as UV absorbers. High-luster polyesters and even thin, satiny silk can be highly protective because they reflect radiation.
Even if the piece of clothing has a good UPF, what you do while wearing it can make a difference. If the fabric gets stretched, it will lose some of its protective ability, because the fabric becomes thinner and more transparent to light. And once it gets wet, it can lose up to 50 percent of its UPF. In Florida, it is a common practice for parents to put a white T-shirt on their children to protect them from the sun while swimming. But when that T-shirt gets wet, it provides a UPF of only 3.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE INFO...and the info to come!
I'm happy to see that someone asked about cleaners too. I had questions about those.
And thank you MERI for the book reviews! I was going to get the book from Sophie but will now look for Renee's book. :)
I'm also going to stock up on the Sunguard. My boys play baseball and are outside EVERY chance they get. This will be a great peace of mind for me. :)
I'm also glad you are talking about the skin care. I've been looking at ALL our lotions/potions and WOW...EVERYTHING has parabens!
I'm trying to figure everything out too. It is SO HARD!
I just bought my boys TOM's natural toothpaste and they HATE it. :(
Any suggestions on how to make the switch a little easier on kids that are a too old to miss the bait & switch??
Staci
Staci,
Kid doesn't like the Tom's toothpaste either. But then she doesn't like any toothpaste and just brushes with water. So far her dentist has noticed ;)
And of course you are welcome!
Now did I see over at Robin's that you have your own fitness site? Is that you?
Great post!!
I was planning to check out the Method baby line this week at Target. Thanks for the reminder.
I've been purging products myself lately, after learning about petroleum collecting in the body from everyday (every minute for me) products like lipstick and lip balm. The original maker of Aveda is working on a 100% natural line with zero petroleum-based products. I can't wait!
I've got Oprah saved, and now that I know Julia Roberts reads your blog, I definitely have to watch her.
Mrs. F -- great post on such an important issue. I'm trying to use as little stuff with parabens as possible. Wouldn't you know my fave shampoo/conditioner have it? After seeing the Oprah site, I may have to ditch it for good. I tried the JASON line from Whole Foods previously, and my hair became very dry (even with their most moisturizing version). So I'll have to try some others. Thank God for Whole Food's return policy.
For moisturizer, I have notoriously sensitive skin; I recommend sweet almond oil from Whole Foods. It's freaking awesome, and a little goes a long way. Also, Method has a natural moisturizing line, and I use their almond flower body wash -- and I've had to use less almond oil lately.
I use Cetaphil on my face -- no parabens there, sweet.
I haven't had the courage to look up the ingredients of my beloved eye cream.
Phthtlates are SO freaking scary. Really. I'm terrified.
Mrs. F,
Yes, I do have an on-line personal training site...and that is me. :)
Heather~I bought Cetaphil for my boys to wash their faces because it's so gentle. The Daily Facial Cleanser DOES have Sodium Laueth Sulfate, fragrance and methylpapaben. I was bummed. My boys actually liked using it. Now I'm on the hunt for all natural/organic products.
Anyone have any info or comments about Burt's Bees? I know you can get it at Target and I'm looking for convienent organics before I buy online. (No TJ or WF near me)
I want to switch out face & body washes, shampoos and lotions ASAP.
So if you know of any other organics avalible in the "regular" stores please let me know. :) Thanks.
Staci
Staci,
well... Burt's Bees is not organic and it is now owned by Loreal (or similar) so who knows if they are going to maintain the formulas?! They were mentioned as "good" on the Oprah but...
I did run them through the cosmetics database last night and some of the Burt's Bees products were scoring just as high as the conventional. So I'd check out this SITE punch in either Burt's Bees or the specific product and decide if you like the hazard rating or not. I'm shooting for 0-2 myself.
You can get California Baby & Method products at Target they are in the Baby dept not the pharmacy/beauty section.
In the beauty section of ours they have an organic/natural section and they carry Alba products.
Again I'm finding the scores to be all over the place and each product kind of needs to be looked at individually.
Also heads up...
I'm finding Diazolidinyl Urea in several of Mr F's & my products... it is a formaldehyde donor... me thinks you don't want this stuff on your body!
Shoot! I seen Burt's Bees was on a list over on Renee Loux's site.
This is what her site said about Alba.
Alba Botanica
www.albabotanica.com
Formed under the banner or Avalon Organics, many products made by Alba Botanica contain a spectrum of natural and organic plant-based ingredients, botanicals and essential oils—but not all are free from synthetics. Some contain paraben preservatives, SLS (sodium lauryl sulfate) and vague fragrances. Overall a good company to look to for products—and eco-committed at a corporate level—but be sure to read the ingredient list before buying.
I'm going to check out your link now.
I'm curious about Aubrey Organics too.
Thank you for all your help & info!
I'll be checking back often! :)
Staci
Ok Mrs. F, now THIS is an area where I have some good stuff to share. I began reading about ingredients in cosmetics and skin care years back and then EUREKA along came a friend who introduced me to Arbonne.
Yes, this is a bold "plug" but since the topic is being discussed, I think all of you would appreciate some knowledge. I am in "the business" and why?
This company offers an entire line of Pure, Safe & Beneficial Products. All of our products are botanically based, ph CORRECT (better than ph balanced), hypoallergenic, dermatologist tested (again, better than recommended, this is blind testing), NEVER TESTED ON ANIMALS, contains no animal products or by-products, no artificial colors/dyes or fragrances, no MINERAL OIL (petroleum) and many of our product line, including the Baby Line (written up in several baby magazines) are VEGAN.
Petroleum/Mineral oil is horrible and is found in most moisturizers and makeup. It is occlusive and blocks absorption in the skin.
Also, Andrea - Johnson and Johnson No more Tears - they use a numbing agent to numb baby's eyes so they don't tear!!! That is awful.
Our skin is the largest organ and whatever we put on it, is absorbed directly into the bloodstream - think about how the patch works for smokers or patch birth control.....same thing.
I have SO MUCH information on all this, and I will tell you, our skin care totally changed my skin.
(Shameless plug) my website is www.olexa.myarbonne.com
I'm happy to answer any questions!
If you don't pay attention, you can be putting road kill on your face! Yuk!!
Staci,
This is exactly why it is so freaking confusing... even the "organic" lines have terrible stuff in some of their products. It is exhausting. The Avalon site did have a lot of info. It seems like removing parabens is a recent thing for them... and maybe companies in general.
Kelly O,
Hey I don't mind. I've never really known what type of products Arbonne had... I kind of assumed it was like Avon. I'll check out your site.
J&J has numbing agents?!? Holy Shit! WTF?!?!
Mrs. F, there was actually several articles last year, one in the New York Times about the dangers in many popular Baby Products. I have the articles and other info, LMK if you'd like me to email them to you.
Additionally, there is a Chiropractic Neurologist, one of only a dozen in the world ~ that has "endorsed" Arbonne after years of studying the (his opinion) correlation of increased auto-immune disease in women and children....he believes it is because women use more products which are absorbed into the skin and passed on to the baby....
I heard a great conference call with Dr. Wellens and his website is great as well.
My own Doctor is now featuring all these products in his offices because of the safe, more holistic approach.
And on a side note, the skin care will indeed make you look 10 years younger!! Hee hee
Kelly O,
I feel pretty good about what I'm putting on the kids now... but I feel terribly that I didn't really think about the chemicals that I'm passing through to the kids!! I'm not a huge product user... but still. D'OH!
if you've got a link for the articles send 'em my way.... people seem interested.
Some children's bath products hazardous, groups say
By Carlene Olsen, Cox News Service/New York Times News Service
Dallas Morning News
February 9, 2007
WASHINGTON - Some children's bath products contain a suspected cancer-causing chemical in amounts that reach or exceed recommended limits, environmental groups charged Thursday.
Johnson and Johnson, Disney, Kimberly-Clark, and Gerber are among the makers of 15 children's products that contain 1,4-dioxane, David Steinman, head of the environmental publishing company Freedom Press, said at a news conference.
The petroleum-derived chemical is classified by the Environmental Protection Agency as a probable human carcinogen, and the National Toxicology Program considers it a known animal carcinogen, according to the Environmental Working Group, which also took part in the news conference.
In 2000, the Food and Drug Administration recommended that cosmetic companies limit the concentration of 1,4-dioxane in products to 10 parts per million. But the FDA does not regulate cosmetics, leaving companies to monitor the safety of their products on a voluntary basis.
Steinman said a study he commissioned from the West Coast Analytical Service lab in Santa Fe Springs, Calif., showed that Hello Kitty Bubble Bath, made by Kid Care, contained 12.3 ppm of 1,4-dioxane. Johnson's Kids Shampoo Watermelon Explosion, made by Johnson and Johnson, contained the maximum recommended level of 10 ppm, he said.
In addition, two adult shampoos tested by the lab found twice the recommended level of the chemical, he said.
The Environmental Working Group, meanwhile, said it had conducted a computerized assessment of ingredients in 15,000 cosmetics and other personal care products which shows that 1,4-dioxane may be present in 57 percent of all baby soaps.
Iris Grossman, director of communications at Johnson and Johnson, said, "It's important to stress that all our products are within the FDA limits."
The chemical is typically a manufacturing by-product, which companies are not required to list on labels along with ingredients, said Grossman. "And our suppliers guarantee that (levels) are within the FDA limit," she said.
At the news conference, medical experts said that bath products could be linked to other children's health problems.
Research suggests a link between ingredients in common bath products and early puberty development in children, said Devra(cq) Davis, director of the Center for Environmental Oncology at the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute.
Children's fast-paced growth rate and porous skin increases their susceptibility to toxins that can enter the bloodstream through the skin's surface, Davis said.
Jeanne Rizzo, executive director of the Breast Cancer Fund, said that "an increased risk of breast cancer is linked to toxic exposure that occurs in the most vulnerable period of our lives."
Here is a link to another article around the same time:
http://www.healthnewsdigest.com/news/Children_s_Health_200/Cancer_printer.shtml
Rats, that didn't work. Here is the article and website link.
From HealthNewsDigest.com
Children's Health
Cancer-Causing Chemical Found in Children's Bath Products
By
Feb 8, 2007 - 11:39:32 AM
CANCER-CAUSING CHEMICAL FOUND IN CHILDREN'S BATH PRODUCTS
Women's Shampoos and Body Wash also Contaminated
(HealthNewsDigest.com) - WASHINGTON — A hidden cancer-causing petrochemical has been found in dozens of children's bath products and adults' personal care products, in some cases at levels that are more than twice the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's lenient recommended maximum.
Laboratory tests released today revealed the presence of 1,4-Dioxane in products such as Hello Kitty Bubble Bath, Huggies Baby Wash, Johnson's Baby Wash, Scooby-Doo Bubble Bath and Sesame Street Bubble Bath. The tests also found the carcinogen in Clairol Herbal Essences shampoo, Olay Complete Body Wash and many other personal care products.
1,4-Dioxane is a petroleum-derived contaminant considered a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and a clear-cut animal carcinogen by the National Toxicology Program. It is also on California's Proposition 65 list of chemicals known or suspected by the state to cause cancer or birth defects. Because it is a contaminant produced during manufacturing, the FDA does not require it to be listed as an ingredient on product labels.
The problem of 1,4-Dioxane contamination in personal care products is highlighted in a new book, "Safe Trip to Eden: Ten Steps to Save the Planet Earth from the Global Warming Meltdown," by David Steinman. The laboratory results were released jointly today at the National Press Club by Steinman and the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics, a coalition of U.S.-based health and environmental groups working to protect cosmetics consumers from toxic chemicals and hold companies accountable for the safety of their products.
"Regrettably, 1,4-Dioxane contamination is just the tip of the iceberg," said Jeanne Rizzo, R.N., executive director of the Breast Cancer Fund, a founding member of the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. "Because the FDA does not require cosmetics products to be approved as safe before they are sold, companies can put unlimited amounts of toxic chemicals in cosmetics."
Steinman said parents should be outraged that companies are willing to spend a significant amount of money on entertainment licensing agreements that entice children but won't spend pennies to remove contaminants such as 1,4-Dioxane.
"Consumers who have young children, as I do, have the right to expect the highest purity in children's products," Steinman said. "I call on American consumers to say no to dangerous petrochemicals in their children's cosmetic and personal care products."
Contrary to what many consumers may believe, the FDA does not review or regulate cosmetics products or ingredients for safety before they are sold to the public and has no legal authority to require safety assessments of cosmetics.
Devra Lee Davis, professor of epidemiology and director of the Center for Environmental Oncology at the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute, said that the usual regulatory approach of assessing risk one chemical at a time does not account for the combined effects of very low levels of hidden contaminants in personal care products and from other sources. "We must lower exposures to controllable agents that we know or suspect cause cancer," she said.
The FDA has been measuring 1,4-Dioxane levels since 1979, but because the agency has little authority or enforcement capacity over the cosmetics industry, it has worked with manufacturers to reduce levels on a voluntary basis only. In 2000, the FDA recommended that cosmetic products should not contain 1,4-Dioxane at concentrations greater than 10 ppm (parts per million); yet some 15 percent of products tested exceeded even these lenient guidelines. This limit, however, also does not take into account that babies exposed to 1,4-Dioxane from baby shampoo may be exposed at the same time to 1,4-Dioxane from bubble bath, body wash and many other products.
More than two dozen products were tested at Steinman's request by West Coast Analytical Service, an independent testing laboratory specializing in trace chemical analysis. Among the products tested:
Product and 1,4-Dioxane concentration:
Baby & Children's Consumer Products
Disney Clean as Can Bee Hair & Body Wash (Water Jel Technologies): 8.8 ppm
Disney Pixar Cars Piston Cup Bubble Bath (MZB Personal Care): 2.2 ppm
Gerber Grins & Giggles Gentle & Mild Aloe Vera Baby Shampoo: 8.4 ppm
Hello Kitty Bubble Bath (Kid Care): 12 ppm*
Huggies Baby Wash Shea Butter: 4.0 ppm
Huggies Natural Care Baby Wash Extra Gentle and Tear Free: 4.2 ppm
Johnson's Head-to-Toe Baby Wash (Johnson & Johnson): 5.3 ppm to 6.1 ppm
Johnson's Kids Tigger Bath Bubbles (Johnson & Johnson): 5.6 ppm to 7.9 ppm
Johnson's Kids Shampoo Watermelon Explosion (Johnson & Johnson): 10 ppm*
Lil' Bratz Mild Bubble Bath (Kid Care): 3.7 ppm
L'Oreal Kids Orange Mango Smoothie Shampoo: 2.0 ppm
Mr. Bubble Bubble Bath Gentle Formula with Aloe: 1.5 ppm
Rite-Aid Tearless Baby Shampoo: 4.3 ppm
Scooby-Doo Mild Bubble Bath (Kid Care): 3.0 ppm
Sesame Street Wet Wild Watermelon Bubble Bath (The Village Company): 7.4 ppm
Adult Consumer Products
Clairol Herbal Essences Rainforest Flowers Shampoo: 23 ppm*
Olay Complete Body Wash with Vitamins (normal skin): 23 ppm*
Suave Naturals Passion Flower: 2.0 ppm
Steinman's book explains what Americans can do today to be "green patriots" and curb the nation's dependency on foreign oil. The new laboratory results reveal the health risks posed by the same petrochemicals that are part of what he calls the nation's growing oil addiction.
Women and girls use an average of 12 personal care products daily, according to a 2004 survey conducted by the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics.
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For kids around 6 years and over, we have been using Essential Angel organic skincare products. I have twin girls aged 8 who have sensitive and dry skin. They continually seemed to have dry patches and redness on their faces. We started using Essential Angel just six weeks ago, but have been delighted with the results. The company offers full ingredient disclosure. The girls think they are so mature having their own skin care products particularly since the packaging is really funky! It is available online at www.essentialangel.com
Jeanie Q
thanks for all the info.(Mrs.F. & Kelly O.) really pissed me off to find out about johnson & johnson and the numbing agents and to think this is the brand hospitals trust most theyre poisoning babies. so sad! Im throwing all that crap in the garbage.
and Nutmeg thanks for the cosmetic database site I was up till 2 am checking every product in the house.
Thanks for the Skin Deep link...I too have been searching all our products. What an eye opener.
I just checked Tom's Children's toothpaste and it rated 4...4!!! The Sparkle Fun toothpaste I replaced scored a 4 too. WTF?
Should I just let my son use the Sparkle Fun one he likes and ACTUALLY brushes his teeth with?
I'm SO lost. I feel like I'm NEVER going to find products that are safe for my family.
Staci
This was a very informative post with a lot of good, if not scary, info. Thanks for looking out for all of us. I also love method cleaner and can't wait to try the sunguard... I had to laugh that you were confused about when earth day was. We were in D.C. last week, and they had a huge outdoor concert on the mall on Sunday for earth day. So we all thought that was earth day. Then they had all these other events throughout the week, so we were really confused. My youngest made up a song to the tune of The 12 Days of Christmas... "on the first day of earth day..." etc. It was cute. So don't worry about missing the day - as long as you got the info out!
Jeanie Q,
Hey thanks for the recommendation. I saw that brand listed a lot in the Cosmetics Database and they always had really low hazard scores. I'd never heard of it before.
Staci,
I hear you on the Tom's score. Here is what I just don't understand so my regular Dove anti-perspirant scored a 3. Now it has aluminum in it and that is factually bad. So... why did the Tom's deodorant score just as badly? And why did Dove score so low... I though it would have been like an 8? You can really make yourself crazy...
If they scored the same... go back to the bottom of the product page and see how they derived the score. Sometimes all the components will be 2-4 and sometimes one ingredient is like a 8-9 and the rest are low so it still averages to 4. You know what I'm saying? If the scores are the about the same and there is not one terrible ingredient stick with what they like (I would).
Andrea,
Oh I'm glad you came back and checked the comments last night! I was hoping you'd see Kelly's comment.
Gigs,
LOL! Well I'm glad I wasn't the only confused soul out there :)
I love the Sunguard. Love it. Total piece of mind... especially for kids at camp.
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